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TEL AVIV — Israeli officers have gotten guardedly optimistic {that a} hostage take care of Hamas might be reached, however any settlement is more likely to be interim and restricted.
A deal is more likely to contain just some dozen captive Israeli youngsters and aged, amongst them some twin nationals, together with Individuals, in accordance with two Israeli officers, who had been granted anonymity to debate the delicate subject of hostages.
The formalizing of humanitarian pauses in northern Gaza has helped progress the talks by way of the Qataris and Egyptians, the 2 officers acknowledged. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this week agreed to place in place four-hour each day humanitarian pauses in its bombings in Gaza after nearly two weeks of stress from the Biden administration.
However the two officers cautioned that there are nonetheless a number of excellent points that might simply derail a deal, together with the Hamas militants withholding an entire checklist of the hostages being held within the Gaza Strip. The Hamas army management can be demanding a cease-fire, or an extended humanitarian pause of as a lot as every week, the Israeli officers mentioned.
David Meidan, a former Mossad intelligence officer, who served for a time as Benjamin Netanyahu’s coordinator on hostage points, believes that “one thing is shifting underneath the floor” concerning the hostages. The humanitarian pauses that Netanyahu has agreed to “would possibly result in some constructive steps,” Meidan mentioned in an unique interview with POLITICO.
Greater than a decade in the past, Meidan negotiated the deal to safe the discharge of Gilad Shalit, a younger Israeli soldier captured by Hamas in 2006, in alternate for 1,027 Palestinian prisoners. Meidan, who has been counseling the households of the Israeli hostages, has been consulted by U.S. diplomats and Netanyahu’s newly appointed hostage envoy, Gal Hirsch.
Meidan suggested Hirsch and the Individuals to not waste time juggling totally different channels of communication and to focus their efforts on figuring out mediators in a position to attain the important thing decision-makers — specifically the Hamas army leaders in Gaza. He mentioned he instructed them that “the political leaders outdoors Gaza in Qatar should not so related.” They’ll serve simply as go-betweens for messages to the Hamas army leaders, Meidan defined.
The important thing gamers
“Once I led negotiations 12 years in the past, I didn’t perceive at first precisely who the important thing gamers had been. Lastly, I understood that the important thing particular person on the time was Ahmed Jabari,” Meidan mentioned.
Jabari in 2006 was commander of the army wing of Hamas, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. He was killed subsequently in 2012 in a focused Israeli airstrike. Now Meidan says Yehya Sinwar, Hamas’ chief within the Gaza Strip and one of many founders of the group’s army wing, is the important thing participant — together with Mohammed Deif, who deliberate the October 7 terror assault on southern Israel, and Marwan Issa, who’s the deputy chief of Hamas’ army wing. “It’s these three,” he mentioned.
“The Individuals are deeply concerned. I’ve the impression that on the American facet there’s a really excessive degree of engagement and it’s coming straight from the highest,” Meidan mentioned. However the American position can solely be restricted, and Washington just isn’t finest positioned to be a negotiator. “What it will probably do is stress the Egyptians and Qataris and instill a way of urgency,” he says. Final week, Mossad chief David Barnea and CIA Director William Burns had been in Qatar to debate methods to win the discharge of the hostages in Gaza with the Qatari prime minister, in accordance with media studies.
Meidan mentioned the negotiations this time spherical shall be harder than what he encountered a dozen years in the past. First, he was bartering for only one soldier, not for round 240 captives, largely civilian; and he wasn’t negotiating towards the backdrop of an all-out conflict.
And although he couldn’t sit reverse Jabari due to Israeli legal guidelines, he and the Hamas chief had been in adjoining rooms in Cairo in the course of the last levels with the Egyptians ferrying messages backwards and forwards as they bargained. Meidan knew a deal was close to when Jabari began to just accept that it will be not possible for Israel to launch a few of the Palestinians that Hamas wished freed. “That was once I knew he was turning pragmatic,” he mentioned.
‘Extra advanced’
Egyptian generals had been essential in pulling off the Shalit deal, in accordance with Meidan. He thinks they are going to be key once more — together with one normal who led the Egyptian workforce in 2006.
“Now it’s much more advanced,” Meidan mentioned. Nobody is in adjoining rooms, and it’s way more laborious and time-consuming.
“What you’ve got now could be the Israelis and the Individuals speaking with the Qataris, who’re then passing messages to the Hamas political leaders in Doha, who then talk with Gaza. And you’ve got Egyptians speaking with Hamas leaders in Gaza. The Israelis draft proposals and the Individuals tweak them. The Qataris and the Egyptians make options. The ultimate model is distributed to Gaza by way of the Hamas leaders in Doha,” he added.
Hamas has alternative ways of speaking between the political and army leaders, together with utilizing cell telephones, that are simply monitored. “Every spherical of bargaining takes two to 3 days” slowing the method and drawing out the bargaining, says Meidan. “It takes quite a lot of time however, alas, time is of the essence,” he mentioned.
Meidan had wished Israel to prioritize hostage negotiations a lot sooner — and earlier than Israel began to pummel Gaza and launch army floor operations.
“Now we’re in a special scenario,” he mentioned. He faults Netanyahu for dragging his ft. “I listened fastidiously to the statements of the Hamas leaders, and I bought the impression they had been greatly surprised on the worldwide outrage after the horrible October 7 assault and had been attempting to argue that the worst of what occurred wasn’t carried out by their fighters,” Meidan mentioned.
Meidan mentioned one of the best ways to engineer a deal now could be to make use of the humanitarian pauses to push a humanitarian line on Hamas and argue they need to reciprocate by releasing captive infants, youngsters, the aged and the infirm. “However it is rather tough,” he mentioned.
‘Rollercoaster of feelings’
The households of the hostages are getting ever extra impatient and determined, he mentioned. Most are holding off calling for a cease-fire, leaving it to the federal government to find out the most effective methods of getting their family again, Meidan mentioned. Most are arguing that Netanyahu ought to launch all and any Palestinians held in Israeli jails that Hamas desires freed.
However that might change quickly. “They’re going via a rollercoaster of feelings and may say various things from everyday — it’s important to keep in mind there are numerous family concerned they usually don’t all agree,” Meidan mentioned. However with every passing day, extra are saying to me that there needs to be a cease-fire to save lots of as many hostages as doable,” he mentioned.
If the hostage households as a bunch start to name for a cease-fire, it might shift home Israeli politics dramatically, presenting Netanyahu with a probably explosive political second, say opposition politicians. The conflict goals to wreck Hamas’ army capabilities, defang the group to forestall any repetition of October 7 has huge public backing, but when Israel is confronted with a stark selection of selecting between the hostages and the army marketing campaign, then Israelis will prioritize getting the captives launched, say some opposition politicians.
“Mainly, in the event you ask me, the hostages have to come back first, we should always get them residence,” Yair Lapid of the centrist Yesh Atid celebration and chief of the opposition, instructed POLITICO. Though he mentioned he thought in sensible phrases Israel gained’t be confronted with such a black-and-white dilemma. However whether it is, “we can have our probability to kill whoever we have to kill afterwards. If we’re confronted with a selection, then we should go together with the hostages as a result of that’s the primary contract the nation has with the households,” he added.
Former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert agrees that there doesn’t need to be a clear-cut selection. “I’m not certain it’ll come to an either-or. I don’t suppose that if Israel stops now, then we’ll get the hostages. And I don’t suppose that if we don’t cease, we’ll lose the hostages,” he mentioned.
“After we negotiated the discharge of Gilad Shalit, we had been nonetheless confronting Hamas and killing terrorists they usually by no means harmed him as a result of they understood he was an asset and a bargaining chip which they didn’t wish to lose. They defend the belongings,” he mentioned. However he and different politicians acknowledge say that if the households of the hostages name en masse for a cease-fire, it’ll roil Israel’s home politics.